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Arrest in Bus Driver Assault


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(Dec 2, 2005)
A 25-year-old Guelph man is charged in an early morning assault that left a city bus driver's face battered Oct. 30 and shut down late night Magic Bus service between downtown and University of Guelph.

The man, not a U of G student, was charged with assault causing bodily harm Nov. 29 after a month-long investigation aided by students.

The 55-year-old bus driver, Mike Jones, was treated at hospital after a passenger punched him. He was the second bus driver to be assaulted in a month. Jones was punched repeatedly in the head and face by a lone passenger wearing a Halloween costume after he refused $20 to drive off his route.

Guelph Transit and two student associations involved in Magic Bus service agreed to suspend the service until driver safety issues are addressed.

He is also charged with two counts of theft under $5,000.

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  1. Posted by: Alex on Dec 6, 2005 @ 4:24pm

    Well surprise fucking surprise, and people said students don't have any respect for the community. Nice to know some stereotypes can be broken.

  2. Posted by: uter on Dec 6, 2005 @ 6:32pm

    What about the other bus driver assault? It says there were two in a month.

  3. Posted by: Alex on Dec 7, 2005 @ 8:25pm

    what about it? I didn't hear anything. I'm sure if it involved the University it'd be plastered in every goddamn public space on campus like the last one.

  4. Posted by: jeff on Dec 7, 2005 @ 8:56pm

    I'm mike jones... i need a dime

  5. Posted by: Frank on Dec 7, 2005 @ 9:00pm

    I'm mike jones, I need $1.85 or a student card

  6. Posted by: Dave on Dec 8, 2005 @ 2:01am

    What is wrong with you people? Have a little respect. The man drives you around every day and puts up with druken crap from students...he gets the shit kicked out of him, and you're cracking jokes?

    Grow up.

  7. Posted by: James on Dec 9, 2005 @ 6:25pm

    Dave,
    in the case of the first bus driver he was assulted because he would not stop the bus off his regular route after a drunked individual repeatedly asked him to. Even after the threat of bodily harm he still did not stop the bus to let the drunk off. Ask yourself, in that situation would you stop? If someone was threatening you? Or would you be stubborn and provoke an assult from a drunk. As far as I'm concerned this could have been avoided if the bus driver used common sense and let him off. Someone that inept has an assult coming to them at some point...

  8. Posted by: uter on Dec 10, 2005 @ 12:25am

    yeah sure James. I'm all for common sense but jesus, how harsh can you get. He had an assault coming to him? I'm sure that's what he was going for that night. Let me provoke some idiot into hitting me and turning my life upside down. He was following the policy of the late night bus service clearly. What fine morals have you been raised with?

  9. Posted by: Lisa on Dec 10, 2005 @ 10:33am

    Wow, I was shocked by the negativity coming from the students at this article. I for one was GLAD it wasn't a student; it was a pretty decent assumption that it could have been a student since a young male, coming from a Halloween party and used the University's bus service to get home. But since it wasn't, let's have a sigh of relief that we don't have a student who assaults someone because he won't stop at the right place.

    As for the first bus driver, he is doing a FAVOR to the student body in the first place by driving the students around after bar hopping, parties etc. in the middle of the night. He does not have anything in his contract that states he needs to go above and beyond to every student that wants to be dropped off at their front door. Suck it up and walk a few minutes.

  10. Posted by: Alex on Dec 10, 2005 @ 11:44am

    And by favor you mean he's getting paid...

    As well, justice should be served but at the same time I don't see what makes this particular bus driver so much more special than any other person who gets assulted. Either way the City benefits more from having the magic bus than without.

    And the saga of the I-hate-you-but-need-you relationship between Guelph and the University Students continue...

  11. Posted by: james on Dec 10, 2005 @ 12:26pm

    Uter,

    with regards to your comments, I'm not saying he tried to provoke someone that night but inadvertantly did so by his blatant disregard of common sense. I'm simply stating that if someone is threatening to assult you and you can prevent it easily by something as simple as stopping why shouldn't you (he was not asked to drop him off at home just to let him off, check the front page of the Guelph Tribune from Oct 1-10)? Also, stating the the driver's "life has been turned upside down" is hyperbolizing the situation to the extreme. This discussion is about the safety of the individual and what is reasonable in a set of circumstances. Sure he may have followed "policy" but he got assulted because of it. This is not a "harsh" statement it is simply fact. Finally, I'm sorry Uter that you had to turn to petty insults ("What fine morals have you been raised with?") in order to make a point but perhaps its because of problems in your life right now stemming off into other things that is making you act this way. Should I be looking at my morals or should you look at your life?

  12. Posted by: uter on Dec 10, 2005 @ 1:48pm

    What a fuck head you are. No one knows exaclty what happened on that bus except for the driver and the assaulter. I sure hope you are put in the same position one day. Then you can do what you preach.

    By the way there has to be more to the story. What was the driver going to do, just drive around until the early hours of the morning with this last person on the bus? And I highly doubt the person warned the driver he was about to assault him. By the way james, are you the suspect? You seem to be the only one defending him.

  13. Posted by: Krysta on Dec 10, 2005 @ 6:11pm

    james is somewhat right dude,
    the first assault was because a couple guys missed their stop, and then asked the driver to stop so they could get off, the driver refused. this lead to yelling insults (from both sides actually, although heavily weighted), threatening, and eventually one of the guys spit on the driver, assaulted him in some way, got off the bus and ran. definately out of line, and ridiculous, as the next stop was probably only meteres down the road by that point. but the driver could have prevented it.

    they arent doing us a favour really, theyre getting paid to work. they dont have to do the late night route. they choose to, its the same select drivers doing it everytime. a real favour would have been to help the guy out and just let him off, its 2:30 in the morning. 1 or 2 of the late night drivers (and only 1 or 2 that ive come across out of the bunch that do it) are jerks. yeah, they definately have a stressful job, and they do provide a pretty valuable service. but they purposely enact every form of power they can, just not nice people in general, it happens, im not complaining, they get their job done.

  14. Posted by: Krysta on Dec 10, 2005 @ 6:12pm

    i think what james meant was that a person, any person, with that kind of attitude, especailly when dealing with young, irrational drunks, is going to get himself into problems. even if he had said no politely, and reminded him there was another stop in 30 seconds, it may have prevented it. but no, his response was not that far of of what you expected the student to say.

    there was still no justification to assault someone, there never really is. that guy was the instigator and definately the cause of the entire problem. but just stating that it could have easily been prevented if he wasnt so stubborn.

    the recent assault is completely different. the guy actually punched the driver for something the driver isnt allowed to do. remembering that the driver is supposed to stop for females after dust, so its not that unrational for him to have stopped. they werent the last ones on the bus or anything, we were on it, drunk and being loud as well; it was a full bus

    just to look at the not so obvious point of view.

  15. Posted by: on Dec 11, 2005 @ 12:59am

    The "not so obvious point of view" is both dead wrong and shocking.

    A person doing his job was assaulted repeatedly by some selfish bully (drunk or not) who was pissed off that he couldn't boss the worker around. This man was physically violated.

    Appeals to "common sense" are so much empty noise here. The bus driver did nothing wrong and the notion that if we don't obey the orders of bullies out of common sense, then we are in any way responsible for what happens to us is bizarre and outrageous.

  16. Posted by: on Dec 12, 2005 @ 12:36am

    Luke: THANK YOU. You're right.

  17. Posted by: megs on Dec 12, 2005 @ 4:40pm

    Well, maybe the city officials will be slower to make assumptions and regualtions involving UofG students and codes of conducts. Will the majic bus be up and running next semester now?

  18. Posted by: on Dec 13, 2005 @ 12:22pm

    hey, i'm the CSA Local Affairs Commissioner and i'm the one who deals with the buses. Just to clear up what's happening with the Magic Bus: after the assault, we lost late night bus service for 2 days. I was able to get Denny's Bus Lines to start doing the residential routes again, and they have been since but there aren't enough buses to do the downtown-university shuttle.
    Next semester, we are hopeful that Guelph Transit will be doing all late night bus service (this was the plan even before the arrest was made). I'll know for sure in January - check the CSA website for updates then. Although the assaulter wasn't a student, driver safety is still the main issue that needs to be addressed. Cameras will be installed, and a few other details need to be worked out. This is a response to the assault itself, not a response to students.

  19. Posted by: on Dec 13, 2005 @ 12:23pm

    As well, the city hasn't made any regulations involving students and no off campus code of conduct is in the works. There was one very biased, and misinformed counselor who called for this, but the University and the CSA both are against any off campus code of conduct.
    And as to the other comments, while i agree that bus driver attitude can definitely impact people's behaviour, i completely agree with Luke.

  20. Posted by: Rob on Dec 13, 2005 @ 10:12pm

    I was saying since this started that it was stupid for people to assume it was a university student since you dont need an id or anything to get on the bus.
    I think all the students that went on and on apoligizing for this asshole deserve an apology themselves. While most in guelph really respect student's role in the community, many forget all the business, jobs, property value, (and government money) the university and its students bring and are so quick to point fingers.
    And i wanna hear about that other assault that happened that month, whats a matter wasnt a student that did it?

  21. Posted by: Rob on Dec 13, 2005 @ 10:22pm

    Just to clearify what i just wrote: I've read about the first assault, but I'm surpised it didnt get as much attention and i dont think you can assume those assaulters were students either.

  22. Posted by: darren on Feb 26, 2006 @ 2:54pm

    This is to jeff and frank how inconsiderate can you be the comment about the driver (i need a dime and i need a 1.85) i cant belive you both are going to university or even passed grade five with that comment, i would love too see you drive drunk individuals around putting up with the crap these employees do, by fare they are putting them selves at risk and the pay is not worth the stress.

  23. Posted by: darren on Feb 26, 2006 @ 3:02pm

    I want to say that Mr. Mcphee whom assulted this driver plays lacross in ontario, must feel like a strong man now that he has assulted a driver of that age (55) while the driver was seat belted in his bus and not able to defend him self that says a lot about you Mcphee, ive contacted the lacross association and national lacross league to inform them of your actions

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